Albanese family of Busso (CB) - Pittsburgh/Cleveland

[mjordan]

It's the Albanese brothers (Nunzio, Clemente, and Liberato) that have me most curious. I have tried the LDS sites but have come up empty so far, but I'm hoping some of the clarity I've gotten tonight might help me.

[mjordan]

I have an N. Albanese living in Westmoreland, PA in 1920 with a young couple named Aubrey & Florence Craig. He was 48 years old at this time and single.

A Liberato Albanese of about the right age was living with a Paparozzi family in Lodi, NJ in 1910.

Clemente is still a mystery.

[Tessa78]

Here's a WWII card for Liberato Albanese in New Jersey.
The birthdate is the right year 1884 based on the ship manifest...

http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/3016 ... towwii.jpg


WWI card for Liberato...also in New Jersey
Lists nearest relative as Mary Albanese at same address

http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/205/liberatowwi.jpg

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[JohnArmellino]

Ripalimosani is a small commune of about 2500 inhabitants located 7 km from the provincial capital of Campobasso. It was originally known as Ripa. According to legend, the village was destroyed by the Roman consul Fabio Massimo and the villagers took refuge in the nearby commune of Limosano. Later, when they had rebuilt their village, they added to the name of Ripa that of Limosani (Latin genitive, meaning "of Limosano") as a sign of gratitude. In the early church records of la Cattedrale in Campobasso, it is referred to as “Ripaâ€

[Tessa78]

1930 Census for Liberato and family...same address as WWI and WWII cards...

Transcribed as "Cerato" instead of Liberato...

1930 United States Federal Census
about Cerato Albanese
Name: Cerato Albanese
Home in 1930: Garfield, Bergen, New Jersey
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Age: 46
Estimated birth year: abt 1884
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's name: Margaretta Albanese
Race: White
Name Age
Cerato Albanese 46
Margaretta Albanese 46
Domineck Albanese 18
Peter Albanese 16

http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/5968 ... to1930.jpg

Haven't found Clemente yet...

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[Tessa78]

Found a family tree on Ancestry for Vittoria Ruberto, wife of Clemente Albanese

It states that Clemente Albanese died in Busso in 1935.

He must have returned to Italy...

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[Tessa78]

This is the only child listed for Clemente Albanese and Vittoria Ruberto

o Angiolina Albanese
o Birth
04-09-1920
+ in Busso, Molise, Italy
o Death
09-11-2001
+ in Bedford, Bedfordshire, England


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[mjordan]

Tessa,

Wow, wonderful! This is exactly what I'd been hoping for!

[Tessa78]

The Family Tree (Mitri Family Tree) seems to belong to the child of Angiolina and her husband Carmine Giovanni Mitri (b. 1926 - d. 1995).

The owner name on the tree is giannimitri (probably Gianni Mitri)
Probably in Bedford, England...

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[JohnArmellino]

The Family of Giovanni Albanese and Lucia Battista

Clemente Albanese, son of Giovanni Albanese, 28, contadino, and Lucia Battista, was born on 10 APR 1878 at Piazza Collegiero in Busso. Source: Busso (Campobasso). Ufficio dello Stato Civile, Registri dello Stato Civile, 1809-1910, FHL INTL Film 1732872/NATI 1878/Numero 22, 11 APR 1878.

Clemente Albanese married Vittoria Ruberto on 07 JAN 1904 in Busso. Source: Busso (Campobasso). Ufficio dello Stato Civile, Registri dello Stato Civile, 1809-1910, FHL INTL Film 1732872/NATI 1878/Numero 22/marginalia, 11 APR 1878.

Nicola Albanese, son of Giovanni Albanese, 30, contadino, and Lucia Battista, was born on 04 MAR 1880 at Piazza Collegiero in Busso. Source: Busso (Campobasso). Ufficio dello Stato Civile, Registri dello Stato Civile, 1809-1910, FHL INTL Film 1732872/NATI 1880/Numero 20, 07 MAR 1880.

Nunzio Albanese, son of Giovanni Albanese, 28, contadino, and Lucia Battista, was born on 30 JAN 1882 at Piazza Collegiero in Busso. Source: Busso (Campobasso). Ufficio dello Stato Civile, Registri dello Stato Civile, 1809-1910, FHL INTL Film 1732872/NATI 1882/Numero 12, 02 FEB 1882.

Liberato Albanese, son of Giovanni Albanese, 32, contadino, and Lucia Battista, was born on 05 FEB 1884 at Piazza Collegiero in Busso. Source: Busso (Campobasso). Ufficio dello Stato Civile, Registri dello Stato Civile, 1809-1910, FHL INTL Film 1732872/NATI 1884/Numero 9, 10 FEB 1884.

Vittoria Albanese, daughter of Giovanni Albanese, 31, contadino, and Lucia Battista, was born on 06 OCT 1886 at Piazza S. Lorenzo in Busso. Source: Busso (Campobasso). Ufficio dello Stato Civile, Registri dello Stato Civile, 1809-1910, FHL INTL Film 1732873/NATI 1886/Numero 63, 07 OCT 1886.

Antonio Albanese, son of Giovanni Albanese, 40, contadino, and Lucia Battista, was born on 29 OCT 1889 in Busso. Source: Busso (Campobasso). Ufficio dello Stato Civile, Registri dello Stato Civile, 1809-1910, FHL INTL Film 1732873/NATI 1889/Numero settantasette 77, 30 OCT 1889.

Pasquale Albanese, son of Giovanni Albanese, 40, contadino, and Lucia Battista, was born on 23 NOV 1891 at Piazza Collegiero in Busso. Source: Busso (Campobasso). Ufficio dello Stato Civile, Registri dello Stato Civile, 1809-1910, FHL INTL Film 1732873/NATI 1891/Numero settantasei 76, 27 NOV 1891.

Maria Cristina Albanese, daughter of Giovanni Albanese, 30, contadino, and Lucia Battista, was born on 08 MAR 1894 at Piazza Aiolaterra [sic] in Busso. Source: Busso (Campobasso). Ufficio dello Stato Civile, Registri dello Stato Civile, 1809-1910, FHL INTL Film 1732873/NATI 1894/Numero diciassette 76, 10 MAR 1894.

Maria Anna Filomena Albanese, daughter of Giovanni Albanese, 40, contadino, and Lucia Battista, was born on 27 APR 1896 at Piazza Collegiero in Busso. Source: Busso (Campobasso). Ufficio dello Stato Civile, Registri dello Stato Civile, 1809-1910, FHL INTL Film 1732873/NATI 1896/Numero ventisette 27, 30 APR 1896.

Carmela Albanese, daughter of Giovanni Albanese, 40, contadino, and Lucia Battista, was born on 15 JUL 1899 at Piazza Collegiero in Busso. Source: Busso (Campobasso). Ufficio dello Stato Civile, Registri dello Stato Civile, 1809-1910, FHL INTL Film 1732873/NATI 1899/Numero quarantatre 43, 17 JUL 1899.

Carmela Albanese married Domenico Coladangelo in 1921 in Busso. Source: Busso (Campobasso). Ufficio dello Stato Civile, Registri dello Stato Civile, 1809-1910, FHL INTL Film 1732873/NATI 1899/Numero quarantatre 43/marginalia, 17 JUL 1899.

Also...

I did an index search 1875-1900 and only found one Filomena Palmieri. She seems to be a bit young to be your Great Grandmother, who I believed married in 1914.

Filomena Palmieri, daughter of Mattia Palmieri, 22, contadino, and Maria Giuseppa Frezza, was born on 07 AUG 1900 at Piazza S. Lorenzo in Busso. Source: Busso (Campobasso). Ufficio dello Stato Civile, Registri dello Stato Civile, 1809-1910, FHL INTL Film 1732873/NATI 1900/Numero cinquantuno 51, 09 AUG 1900.

[mjordan]

Thanks for this John, I have a lot more digging to do.

The birth year I had for Filomena was 1896. Could she have lied about her age in the US in order to be married?

[JohnArmellino]

The birth year I had for Filomena was 1896. Could she have lied about her age in the US in order to be married?

I'll check again tomorrow night at the FHC.

[mjordan]

Thanks John.

I actually have a copy of Filomena's Naturalization papers and I just checked them. Her birthday on this document is listed as May 4, 1896 and she lists her birthplace as Busso. She came to America May 8, 1913 and married my gr-gf in Cleveland June 27, 1914.

Her older sister was Christina Palmieri who married someone by the name of Coladangelo (don't have the first name for him right now) in Italy before coming to America.

[mjordan]

Another question I have: Why is Giovanni Albanese's age inconsistent on these birth records? Was it common practice to just estimate ages in those days?

[JohnArmellino]

Another question I have: Why is Giovanni Albanese's age inconsistent on these birth records? Was it common practice to just estimate ages in those days?

The ages reported for the parents in the birth records of their children (and in death records, for that matter) are notoriously inaccurate. At least in the records of this particular area - Campobasso. The matrimonial records will give you the most accurate ages and the birth records of the oldest children are more accurate than those of the younger ones.