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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2009 8:28 pm    Post subject: Looking for anything... Reply with quote

I'm trying to find any sort of information (but especially naturalization information) on Giuseppe Cargioli. He was my GGF. I'm trying to find any information I can... He was married to Luchrezia Cargioli...

I'm also trying to find information on Ladano(sp???) Corsi and Flavia Corsi.

Both these couples lived in Erie, PA, but I'm pretty sure the Corsi's lived in Ohio for a bit... It would also be great to find there original hometowns. (Sorry... I have no maiden names...)

THANKS!
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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2009 8:31 pm    Post subject: Re: Looking for anything... Reply with quote

Hello Reese!
We'd be happy to help.
Do you have any of your family's census, immigration or military records from the US?
Thanks!
Valarie

probable 1942 WWII Draft Registration Card

Joseph Etore Cargioli
916 W 17th
Erie, Erie, PA
61 years old
born 29 Apr 1880 in Fesdinove
(possibly Fosdinovo, province of Massa-Carrara, Tuscany)
contact person Lucrizia Cargioli at same address
employer Erie Forge & Steel at Huron & Green Garden Rd in Erie

edit: added detail


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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2009 8:39 pm    Post subject: Re: Looking for anything... Reply with quote

I was able to find some stuff on Ancestry.com free trial... but my college budget couldn't afford it at the end of my 14 days.

I was able to find the Corsi's in the US census record in the 1930s through my grandma Olympia. She was one of the kids listed. But the census record made it look like some of the kids had been born in Italy and my dad is almost positive that they were all born here...

The only thing I could find for the the Cargioli's was a draft form the Giuseppe (Joseph) filled out in his 60s for WWII. Other than that, I couldn't find ANY census records that account for him. One census listed a "Frank" Cargioli that could have fit the time-line of Giuseppe... but it could have also been a totally different person. I'm still trying to figure out why there was no census record!
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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2009 8:43 pm    Post subject: Re: Looking for anything... Reply with quote

Thanks Reese, we'll see what we can find.
Chances are their names are either misspelled or mis-transcribed on the census records.
Valarie

Cargioli Family

1930 census

Home in 1930:
916 West 17th Street, owns $5000
Erie, Erie, Pennsylvania

head Joseph Carjoli 49, abt 1881 IT
- married age 24, abt 1904-5
- immig 1903, Al (alien - not naturalized)
- laborer, forge works
wife Lucretia Carjoli 47, abt 1883
- immig 1904, Al
son Melio Carjoli 18, abt 1912 PA
son Frank Carjoli 15, abt 1915 PA
daughter Hilda Carjoli 13, abt 1917 PA
son Geno Carjoli 11, abt 1919 PA
son Joseph Carjoli 8, abt 1922 PA
---

1920 census

Home in 1920:
916 West 17th Street
Erie Ward 3, Erie, Pennsylvania

head Joseph Cargiolli 39
- immig 1904, Al
wife Lucrezia Cargiolli 37
- immig 1905 Al
daughter Julia Cargiolli 11
son Emilio Cargiolli 8
son Frank Cargiolli 5
daughter Hilda Cargiolli 2 2/12
son Louis Cargiolli 11/12
---

1918 WWI Draft Registration card

Giuseppe Cargiolli
19 Apr 1880
non-declarant
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1903 ship manifest

14 Apr 1903, SS Lahn, Genoa to NY
line 13
Giuseppe Ettore Cargiolli
- 22 years old, abt 1880
- single
- last residence ?? (could be Fosdinovo)
- destination Erie
- joining brother Giovanni at 123(?) 17th Street

probably traveling with line 12 (cousin)
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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2009 11:21 pm    Post subject: Re: Looking for anything... Reply with quote

Corsi Family

1942 WWII Draft Registration Card

Lidano Corsi
531 1/2 West 17th Street
Erie, Erie, PA
53 years old
born 2 Jun 1888 in Sezze Italy
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for reference, the 1930 census you mentioned
1930 census

Home in 1930:
420 West 17th, owns $7500
Erie, Erie, Pennsylvania

head Leotis Corsi 38, abt 1892 IT
- married age 29(?)
- immig 1909, Pa (filed 1st papers for naturalization)
- laborer, forge steel
wife Florence Corsi 34, abt 1896 IT
- immig 1909, Al
son Tony Corsi 14, abt 1916 PA
daughter Phillis Corsi 13, abt 1917 PA
daughter Olympia Corsi 11, abt 1919 PA
daughter Orga Corsi 8, abt 1922 PA
son Rinalda Corsi 4, abt 1926 PA
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1920 census

Home in 1920:
449 1/2 W 16th
Erie Ward 3, Erie, Pennsylvania

head Sedna Cortsey 27, abt 1893 IT
- immig 1912
wife Flora Cortsey 23, abt 1897 IT
- immig 1913
son Anthoney Cortsey 4 8/12, abt 1915 PA
daughter Philomia Cortsey 3 6/12, abt 1916 PA
daughter Olympia Cortsey 2 3/12, abt 1917 PA
brother-in-law (?) Omear Barkas 37, abt 1893 IT
- immig 1913 Al
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possible 1911 ship manifest
page 2

23 May 1911, SS Hamburg, Naples to NY
line 18

Lidamo (Lidano) Corso
- 23 years old, abt 1888
- single
- last residence Sezze
(probably Sezze, province of Latina, Lazio)
- in Sezze mother (?) Giuseppa
- destination Ellwood PA
- not in US before
- joining friend
- born in Sezze
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PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2009 2:14 am    Post subject: Re: Looking for anything... Reply with quote

Oh my goodness! Thank you so much! It's funny that "Carjoli" was a misspelling because my dad's side of the family pronounces it that way. haha

Thank's so much! My dad actually just told me the maiden names of my great-grandmothers.. and it would be amazing if you could find a ship manifest. You've found so much and I appreciate it immensely!

Here are my grandma's maiden names (we're pretty sure):

Flavia D'Amico or Damico
Lucrezia Marcchini

If you find anything on those two - that would be incredible. I can't believe how fast you found it. I was going crazy those 14 days because I couldn't find anything for the cargioli's!

Thank you so much!
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PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2009 2:29 am    Post subject: Re: Looking for anything... Reply with quote

Possible manifest for Flavia.


www.ellisisland.org/EI...&line=0026

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www.ellisisland.org/EI...&line=0026
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PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2009 2:44 am    Post subject: Re: Looking for anything... Reply with quote

That is Flavia's record! Both my GGP were arranged marriages, and it says she was coming over to get married to Lidano! Thank you so much!

I'm going to keep looking for Lucrezia. And if anyone else finds it - please post it!

Thank you so much you guys!
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PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2009 10:00 am    Post subject: Re: Looking for anything... Reply with quote

Hi,
the name of Lucrezia is listed completely mispelled: Sucrgia but if you look at the manifest, line 18 (click to enlarge) you will see it's Lucrezia (correct Italian spelling for that name). She was from Fosdinovo which is under Massa Carrara province, Tuscany.

She was joining her sister Enrichetta Marchini, Eire PA

Lucrezia Marchini

Regards

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PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2009 10:07 pm    Post subject: Re: Looking for anything... Reply with quote

Is there some secret to finding all these documents that I didn't know? I can's thank you all enough! It's crazy to see all this stuff. The main reason I started looking into my family history is because my family and I are considering going for our Italian citizenship. And it looks like we can apply through either side. But I do have one more question - what is the best way to find the petition for naturalization that it seems Lidano applied for? The local court where he applied? Straight to the feds? Thanks again everyone!
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