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should read

I am looking for

Joseph Lazzaro born about 1893 in Italy immigrated to NY about 1905

he had a brother Frank

he married

Pauline Loverde born about 1897 in Italy but could be NY

Paulines mother was named Rose ? born in Italy

Together they 2 children

Rose
Mary

Any information on Ancestors or even Roses last name would be great


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this is the right post
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Is this the missing census?
Valarie

1930 Lazzaro census
edit: added detail

Home in 1930:
41 Hopkin? St, rents $15
Mount Morris, Livingston, New York

head Joseph Lazzaro 37 (abt 1893)
- married age 21 (abt 1914)
- immig 1905 Al
- laborer, building contractor
wife Pauline 32 (abt 1898) NY
- married age 16
daughter Mary 14 (abt 1916) NY
daughter Rosie 12 (abt 1918) NY

mother-in-law Rose Loverde 68 (abt 1862)
- widow
- married age 16 (abt 1878)
- immig 1890 Na
brother-in-law Joseph Loverde 36 (abt 1894) NY
- truck driver
- served in WW

note: Josephine Maurana also appears to live in this house
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yes that is the missing census.

thank you
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More clues?

possible 1920 census

Home in 1920:
41 Hopkin Street, owns
Mount Morris, Livingston, New York

head Rose La Verd 50 (abt 1870) IT
- widow
- immig unk
son-in-law Joseph Lazzara 26 (abt 1894) IT
- immig 1906 Al
- laborer, D L W RR (Delaware, Lackawanna and Western Railroad?)
wife Pauline Lazzara 21 (abt 1899) IT
- immig unk Al
daughter Mary Lazzara 4 (abt 1916) NY
daughter Rose Lazzara 2 (abt 1918) NY

another La Verd family at the same address:

head Nick La Verd 30 (abt 1890) IT
- immig unk
- laborer, D L W RR (Delaware, Lackawanna and Western Railroad?)
wife Mary La Verd 30 (abt 1890) IT
- immig unk
daughter Rose La Verd 9 (abt 1921) NY
son Marion La Verd 5 (abt 1925) NY
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possible 1910 census

Home in 1910:
Hopkins Street, owns house w/o mortgage
Mount Morris, Livingston, New York

Marion Lovedi 50 (abt 1860) IT
- married 31 yrs (abt 1879)
- immig 1888
Rosie Lovedi 45 (abt 1865) IT
- 5 children born/living
- immig 1880?
Nicholas Lovedi 20 (abt 1890) IT
- immig 1880?
Joseph Lovedi 16 (abt 1894) NY
Pauline Lovedi 13 (abt 1897) NY
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Valarie, great finds! I'm off to a surprise birthday party and will check back later to see what's new.
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Possible?

possible 1900 census

Home in 1900:
Brooklyn Ward 10, Kings, New York

Mariano Loverdo 35 (abt 1865) IT
- married 19 yrs (abt 1881)
- immig 1889 Al
Rosa Loverdo 34 (abt 1866) IT
- 12 children born, 5 children living
- immig 1891
Lena Loverdo 13 (abt 1887) IT
- immig 1891
Nicolo Loverdo 10 (abt 1890) IT
- immig 1891
Joseph Loverdo 6 (abt 1894) NY
Annie Loverdo 3 (abt 1897) NY
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Location in Italy?

possible 1917 WWI Draft Registration Card

Nicholas Laverde
41 Hopkins St
Mount Moris, Livingston, New York
19 May 1890
Birthplace: Cerda, Palermo, Italy
Naturalized
Wife & 3 children
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A possibility on the original name:
currently 20 folks in Cerda Palermo
with the spelling: Lo Verde
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Possible 1891 manifest
Odd manifest:
children listed together on pages,
separate from parents,
sorted by gender?

24 Jun 1891 SS Italia Naples to NY
Destination: New York
Place of Origin: Italy

manifest
line 331
Fles Le Verde, 8
Estimated birth year: abt 1883
Gender: Female

line 332
Name: Anto Le Verde, 4
Estimated birth year: abt 1887
Gender: Female

different page
line 198
Nicolo Le Verdi, 1
Estimated birth year: abt 1890
Gender: Male
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If mother Rosa (?) Lo Verde is on this ship,
there are several possibilities with first initial 'R'
going to NY...
Note for people currently in Cerda -
these names could be mis-spelled

Rosa Scorsone Estimated birth year: abt 1863 Age: 28
10 people in Cerda Scorsone

R DE Maria Estimated birth year: abt 1866 Age: 25
36 people in Cerda Di Maria

R F Francesco Estimated birth year: abt 1868 Age: 23
0 people in Cerda

R Laurieal Estimated birth year: abt 1863 Age: 28
0 people in Cerda

R Radeglir Estimated birth year: abt 1868 Age: 23
0 people in Cerda

R Varuolo Estimated birth year: abt 1867 Age: 24
0 people in Cerda
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RootsWeb Mount Morris Site

May be related??
Resources
TOWN CLERK : Joyce Swanson,103 Main Street, Mt.Morris,NY 14510
TOWN HISTORIAN : Nick LoVerde, 55 Murray Street, Mt.Morris,NY 14510
VILLAGE CLERK: Lois Sciotti, 117 Main Street, Mt.Morris,NY 14510

edit added: link to Livingston County New York Historical Society
Mount Morris Town/Village Historian
Nick LoVerde
55 Murray Street
Mt. Morris, NY 14510
Telephone, 716-658-3665 or 716-658-3289
E-Mail, Historian@nscnet.net
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Valarie, Superb job! Fantastic research!
I can't believe you found a possible relative who is the Mount Morris town historian. And all within four hours. Amazing.
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Lisa,

If Mariano Loverde and Rosa Scorsone are the correct people, this is the mother lode.

http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bi ... rda-sicily

Includes these records

ID: I2920
Name: Mariano LOVERDE
Sex: M
Birth: 1855 in Cerda , Sicily
Change Date: 28 JAN 2005

Father: Nicolo LOVERDE b: 1815 in Cerda , Sicily
Mother: Francesca (Cicero) LOVERDE b: 3 AUG 1823 in Cerda , Sicily

Marriage 1 Rosa (Scorsone) LOVERDE b: 11 OCT 1863 in Cerda , Sicily
Married: 26 MAR 1881 in Cerda , Sicily
Children
Francesca LOVERDE b: 1 DEC 1883 in Cerda , Sicily

ID: I2921
Name: Rosa (Scorsone) LOVERDE
Sex: F
Birth: 11 OCT 1863 in Cerda , Sicily
Change Date: 29 APR 2003

Father: Giuseppe SCORSONE b: 1837 in Cerda , Sicily
Mother: Antonina (Ricotta) SCORSONE b: 1846 in Cerda , Sicily

Marriage 1 Mariano LOVERDE b: 1855 in Cerda , Sicily
Married: 26 MAR 1881 in Cerda , Sicily
Children
Francesca LOVERDE b: 1 DEC 1883 in Cerda , Sicily
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