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PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 5:23 pm    Post subject: English version of this name Reply with quote

Hi;

I was wondering if anyone would know the English version of this name?

Fioremattina

Am I correct in assuming it is a female?

thank you

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 5:29 pm    Post subject: Re: English version of this name Reply with quote

Never heard, btw it sounds feminine

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 5:42 pm    Post subject: Re: English version of this name Reply with quote

It is a very unusual name.

thank you for your reply.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 7:39 pm    Post subject: Re: English version of this name Reply with quote

luvfamily wrote:
Hi;

I was wondering if anyone would know the English version of this name?

Fioremattina

Am I correct in assuming it is a female?

thank you

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It is a contraction of Fiore (flower) and Mattina (morning), hence "morning flower", a flower which blooms in the morning. Possibly she was born in the early morning hours.

I can't imagine what an English translation might be. Perhaps something like Gloria (after the Morning Glory plant species)

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 7:48 pm    Post subject: Re: English version of this name Reply with quote

Thank you for your reply. That is beautiful! I never heard the name before she was born in 1912.

Have a great day!

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 7:55 pm    Post subject: Re: English version of this name Reply with quote

luvfamily wrote:
Thank you for your reply. That is beautiful! I never heard the name before she was born in 1912.

Have a great day!

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It is one of the wonderful features of the Italian language and culture that you can "make up" names in this manner and have them come out with both a beautiful, lyrical, sound and a beautiful meaning.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 8:35 pm    Post subject: Re: English version of this name Reply with quote

Usually the civil officer wouldn't allow to invent new names... and the priest wouldn't allow a name that has no correspondent Saint.
Luvfamily, could you post the document where you found this name?

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 9:57 pm    Post subject: Re: English version of this name Reply with quote

A cousin found the name on the 1925 census. She lives in upper NY. She is going to school and is busy doing a paper so she has not had time to post documents yet.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 10:02 pm    Post subject: Re: English version of this name Reply with quote

luvfamily wrote:
A cousin found the name on the 1925 census. She lives in upper NY. She is going to school and is busy doing a paper so she has not had time to post documents yet.

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It is possible then (probable?) that it is a nickname rather than her true given name.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 3:36 am    Post subject: Re: English version of this name Reply with quote

Hi.....just a question. Is it possible her name was Fiore Mattina? Fiore is used as a given name and Mattina is an Italian surname, so I just thought I'd mention this possibility.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 2:40 pm    Post subject: Re: English version of this name Reply with quote

I don't think so the last name is Giulianelli.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 3:08 pm    Post subject: Re: English version of this name Reply with quote

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I don't think so the last name is Giulianelli.

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Would you mind telling us more about Fioremattina? Where she lived? Approximate date of birth? Parent's names?

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 5:31 pm    Post subject: Re: English version of this name Reply with quote

Is it possible that her name was "Fiorentina". I know that sometimes the parents missed their native land so much that they named a child after it.

I personally knew of a girl whose parents named her Italia. If "Fioremattina" was born in the US, perhaps the civil servants and the priest did not follow the restrictions as in Italy. Just a thought.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 5:38 pm    Post subject: Re: English version of this name Reply with quote

MaryMena wrote:
If "Fioremattina" was born in the US, perhaps the civil servants and the priest did not follow the restrictions as in Italy. Just a thought.

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And a good thought, at that.

Italy does not permit naming sons after their fathers, thus there are no "JR's" in Italy, however the US overflows with first and second generation Italian-Americans who are Jr's (myself, for one).

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